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Calming the Chaos

Calming the Chaos is a podcast by Licensed Mental Health Counselor Tracy Kenela. She uses profound and often humorous stories from her own life to illustrate how chaos can show up, and how emotional it can be! Anxiety, depression, fear, worry, shame and overwhelm can be managed using a variety of simple tools, skills and techniques. Tracy uses her experience as a counselor and her own personal work to provide you with hope…as well as some simple coping techniques, support and encouragement... that will help you move toward a more peaceful and enjoyable life.

May 9, 2021

The Chaos of Depression – Moving through the Shadows of Depression with Zach Rutledge

Calming the Chaos welcomes Zack Rutledge, a Live Podcast on YouTube. Zack is an ACE Certified Trainer, Fitness Nutrition Specialist and Brain Health Trainer. Zack is also a black belt in Karate, and has practiced Yoga for over 10 years.

In this interview, Zack will share his stories about how he has struggled with depression, and about how he moved from a dark part of his life into understanding and coping with depression. He also talks about a book he has written, called “The Official Depression Relief Playbook.” Zack and Tracy will also be answering questions from the live chat!

The goal: To help people recognize signs of depression, and learn some skills to move through the shadows of depression through Zack’s stories and personal experiences.

  1. Tracy gives a brief intro to Zack
    1. History, when he first noticed signs of depression
    2. His emotional reaction and behaviors toward depression
    3. Was there any chaos here?
    4. Stories about depression, including:
  2. Interview with Zack
  1. The dark time with Music and bands
  2. Film / TV and Radio
  • Other stories of depression
  1. Pulling out of the depression – How he did it (does this include the certifications and the black belt / yoga practices?)
  1. Change in career direction during COVID-19
  1. How did this change in direction happen? (tell the story)
  2. What helped you have the courage to make the career change?
  • E-book – tell the story of it’s development, including how you published it, and on Audible
  1. A future as a Mental Health Counselor (LPC) in the future


  1. Helpful tools for managing depression (both Zack and Tracy)
  2. Zack’s links:

Amazon Link for Zack’s Book, “The Official Depression Relief Playbook”


Zack’s Facebook Group:


Helpful Resources:


Black Dog of Depression Cartoon Video:


A Mindful Way Through Depression Book:


Meyers Briggs Type Indicator (MBTI Quiz)


Free Resources from “The Happiness Trap”